The Drowned Word 4th Edition

A Song of Growing Up with “Thrones”

Welcome to The Podcast That Drinks and Knows Things’ Drowned Word! The Drowned Word focuses on topics discussed in the most recent episode of the show. Today I’m talking about S08E06 Is That A Knife In My Heart or Are You Just Happy To See Me.

Well, friends, this is it. Game of Thrones is officially over and now we don’t have to speculate about who will sit the Iron Throne, whether or not we’ll get Cleganebowl, and who will care about Jon’s parentage.

Turns out the answers are Bran, yes, and no one.

The Podcast That Drinks and Knows Things delivered a wonderful episode breaking down the final episode of the season and the series, and I would highly recommend you stop reading this blog and go listen to it. But if you’ve already listened to it, please stick around and read my thoughts on myself.

Though there are certainly Thrones watchers who are newer to the show, a lot of us have been with it from the very beginning.

Season one of Thrones aired in April 2011. At that time, I was nearing the end of my freshman year of college and I worked as a front desk attendant for my dorm. This job involved taking guests’ college IDs and writing their names down in a book so they could hang out in residents’ rooms. The hours were great – I worked 2 AM to 6 AM on Friday nights. People typically stopped signing into the dorm around 3:30 AM, which meant I had another two and a half hours of time during which I had to stay awake and alert. After somehow hearing I needed to watch this show that was based on books I didn’t know, I illegally downloaded the pilot and watched it at the desk (side note: I was only caught illegally downloading videos ONCE in college and had my internet suspended for a week.).

I vividly remember watching seasons one and two (which aired in April 2012) while seated at this desk, pausing the show to sign in guests who would sometimes ask what I was watching and enthusiastically discuss it with me. These were always male guests who were being escorted into the dorm by female “friends” who would wait patiently while we chatted, though once a resident curtly said “I’ll be upstairs” to her friend and left him talking with me.

When season three aired in March 2013, I was a junior. By this time I had met Liz in Adolescent Psychology. Liz and I were both studying to be English teachers, so we ended up in all the same classes right up until graduation. We had a mutual love of Thrones and since I was still living in a dorm at this point, now a resident assistant, I spent season three curled up on Liz’s couch with her and her roommates. Sadly, we’d all gone home to our parents by the time The Rains of Castamere aired, so we had to watch the Red Wedding in our childhood bedrooms.

I graduated college on May 17, 2014, right in the middle of season four. I spent that night celebrating with my friends and when Sunday rolled around, Liz and I decided to stay in our little college town one more night so we could watch episode seven together on her beat-up couch; one last Thrones viewing before we went off to new adventures.

The summer after I graduated college, I worked at a summer camp and met the love of my life. We lived almost four hours apart, which meant that when season five premiered in April 2015, we were a few months into a long-distance relationship. He shared his HBO Now password with me and we video-chatted each week while watching the episodes. Some of my strongest and fondest memories of long-distance are of watching the reactions of a tiny face on a screen.

By April 2016, I had moved to where my boyfriend lived, so we could watch the entire season together, no extra screens required. Every Sunday night, I would go over to his dad’s house and watch the week’s episode with them. As a full-time graduate student, I could afford to stay up late Sunday and sleep in on Monday.

When season seven premiered in July 2017, my boyfriend and I invited friends over to the apartment we now shared. We crowded the 70s-era furniture he and I had inherited and everyone laughed when Ed Sheeran popped up on screen. I had finished grad school two months before and I was anxiously awaiting a call offering me a teaching position for the next school year, but thankfully the show distracted me from that for a bit.

In 2018, my older sister decided she finally wanted in on the Thrones action. Maybe the year-and-a-half hiatus had inspired her to give it a shot. My sister had been living in a different state for a few years at this point, but we decided we’d watch the show together. Between the airing of seasons seven and eight, my sister and I watched every single episode of Thrones – her for the first time and me for the second, third, or fourth, depending on the episode (well, I didn’t tell her this at the time, but one or two episodes I just let play while I did something else. I didn’t need to see some of those Ramsey scenes again.). This became a tradition and now every week my sister and I watch something “together,” a ritual that has brought us closer than ever.  

In April and May of 2019, the eighth and final season of Game of Thrones aired. By this point, both my sister and my dad were invested in the show and every Sunday night we’d text our thoughts on the episode after I’d watched it with my boyfriend: what did you think of Jamie and Brienne? Did you like Pod’s song? Was the battle too dark on your screen? Why did Dany go mad? Who’s going to die THIS week?

And all around the world, millions of other people were discussing the show too. A show that’s been part of some of our lives for close to a decade.

When Game of Thrones started, I was a week away from my 19th birthday. I had just changed my major from Drama to English Education and I was working at the front desk in my dorm. I was three years away from meeting the person who would change my life, six years away from choosing sobriety, seven years away from abandoning teaching and later running a marathon. Eight years away from writing blog posts for a podcast network.

What attracted me to Thrones was, of course, the story. The journey the characters were on and the world in which they lived. I have always loved fantasy, especially high fantasy. I knew I would like this show from the second I started the pilot, but I didn’t know it would become such a huge part of my life. So even though I have my problems with the last season and maybe I’m not 100% sold on King Bran, I can’t help but look back at all my experiences with this show and marvel.

Like Tyrion said, there’s nothing more powerful than a good story. My story isn’t as good as Bran’s (I GUESS), but it’s good enough for me. Thank you, Game of Thrones, for being awesome and bringing me so much joy. For bringing me closer to my family, my friends, and myself. And thank you, Drinks and Knows, for covering this show faithfully over the years. Our watch has truly ended (for now).

Until next time, thanks for reading The Drowned Word. What is read may never die.

The Daily Derry 4th Edition

“Seeing isn’t believing. Believing is seeing.”

Welcome to The Podcast That Floats Down Here’s Daily Derry! The Daily Derry focuses on topics discussed in the most recent episode of the show, which this week was “Stephen King’s ‘IT’ – 033 – Ch. 18 – Bullseye.”

In this episode, Luke, Ben, and Melissa discussed chapter 18, in which the Losers make their own bullets and shoot them at It, which I think is a pretty good plan. Melissa was aghast at the idea of a child using a blowtorch, but hey – when an evil entity is trying to kill everyone, you do what you gotta do.

The hosts talked a lot about the idea of belief and how that is turning out to be a huge theme of this novel. In this chapter, we see that how belief helps the Losers defeat It for the time being. Beverly pretends she has another slug and It is convinced she does. Everyone has to believe and have a “united thought” for their plans to work.

Melissa brought up this great quote from The Santa Clause: “Seeing isn’t believing. Believing is seeing.”

Firstly, great movie.

Secondly, for some reason, my brain always finishes that quote as “believing is believing.” (Anyone know why? Google isn’t helping.)

Belief is a huge part of life. A majority of Americans believe in a higher power, which you will never be able to prove in this life. Belief is the cornerstone of religion.

There’s also the belief we hold in ourselves and each other. Check out this clip from How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying. The protagonist (played here by Nick Jonas, you’re welcome) is tricking everyone into thinking he’s a big shot businessman when he is really a window washer. He sings this song to himself before an important meeting to bolster his confidence. The reprise of the song is then sung to him by his love interest.


As people, we have to believe in ourselves and the people around us. We have to believe that we are doing good in the world and for some people, that involves believing there is a higher power who has set us on the right track.

For the Losers, belief is crucial. They have to believe in each other. They have to believe that Pennywise is a real threat or they will end up like Stan, who refused to believe. They have to believe that they can take him down, even when they have nothing yet. We’ll have to keep considering the idea of the belief as we continue on with the novel.

Until next time, stay imaginary.

The Quibbler 4th Edition

“I Don’t Think Anyone Wants You to Be Here.”

Welcome to The Podcast That Must Not Be Named’s Quibbler! The Quibbler focuses on topics discussed in the most recent episode of the show, which this week was 4-20R– Five Chap Recap.

Well, as is often the case with these posts, I’d like to focus on Lorelei and how utterly hilarious she is. Pretty much everything she said was golden and if you have ever wanted to rant about how ridiculous Harry is, please tune into this episode. Lorelei takes care of it.

Basically, Lorelei is pretty disappointed that Harry ends up the fourth champion – for a few reasons.

1) He’s stealing the glory from Cedric.

2) Why couldn’t he just have a normal year?

3) He makes it four champions and this is NOT the Quadwizard Tournament!

Lorelei makes the point that Harry could have just been chosen like a normal champion. If he had, there would have been three champions, like usual, and he wouldn’t have taken all the glory away from Cedric. Then it still would have been an exciting story about Harry, but it didn’t have to be ALL about him. This also would also potentially remove the source of conflict between Harry and Ron, if they were both able to enter legitimately and Harry was just chosen over Ron (though this could still lead to some sore feelings).

Basically, Lorelei would rewrite this book.

Of course, we know that having Harry be the super special fourth champion does make sense, from a narrative standpoint. It creates drama between Harry and pretty much everyone else. It is the somewhat inexplicable motivation behind a certain character’s appearance at Hogwarts (which I plan to talk about when we get that reveal, because what the heck kind of plan is this?).

If only Harry had been chosen like a normal champion, or better yet, not chosen at all and had a normal year of watching the other champions risk their lives! Alas, Harry is much too special for a year like that and it does make for a very compelling story. But do you agree with Lorelei, that Harry ruins everything?

Also, here’s some extra Lorelei thoughts on the chapters.

How would Lorelei handle the dragon challenge?

She’d turn the dragon into something non-threatening, like a teddy bear, or she’d make a deal with it.

I would bring a pig with me and I’d be like, ‘Hey, we cool? Here’s a pig. Be cool with me. I just need to hold your egg.’

Who was Lorelei’s section MVP?

I love that Cedric is a Hufflepuff and that he’s going for it. He was so cool that Harry was there. He was like, ‘Stuff happened, man! This is fine, we’re cool. I’m a Hufflepuff and we’re so nice and kind.’

Did Lorelei find it logical that everyone had to be shown the dragons? Short answer: no.

It’d be so easy to find it. You can hear the dragons. Follow the fiery sounds of dragons! Not like you hear that every day.

What should Moody have said to Harry, according to Lorelei?

I know you don’t want to be here. I don’t think anyone wants you to be here. But I’ll help you. I got you. Dumbledore forced me to be here.

Should Bagman have helped Harry?

Why are you helping him? He’s not special!

Basically, Lorelei thinks Harry ruins everything, and I’m inclined to agree.

WE’RE KIND!

Until next time, stay imaginary.

The Drowned Word 3rd Edition

Jon Snow is Harry Potter

Welcome to The Podcast That Drinks and Knows Things’ Drowned Word! The Drowned Word focuses on topics discussed in the most recent episode of the show. Today I’m talking about S07E01 Exposition: The Episode.  

First of all, this is a great episode of the podcast. The panel is wonderful and they do a really good job of analyzing the season premiere. So good a job, in fact, that I don’t feel the need to go in depth on anything serious they discussed. Let’s go in depth on something silly then, shall we?  

Luke compared Jon to Harry Potter after Jon’s somewhat misguided speech at Winterfell. Let’s compare some other Game of Thrones characters and Harry Potter characters. I’ve decided to compare the Houses in GoT to the Houses in Harry Potter and choose one member of each house to also compare.

The obvious place to begin is with House Stark and Gryffindor House. Both are full of brave idiots who get themselves killed, which leads to my first comparison.

Robb Stark is James Potter. Both men are brave but make some questionable decisions: James almost killing Snape (siriusly, what the heck, James?) and Robb actually marrying Talisa even though everyone told him that was DUMB. If Harry Potter was more like Game of Thrones, James would have actually killed Severus and lost an alliance with House Snape.

Let’s move on to my house: Ravenclaw. I’ve chosen not a family, but instead what I think is a fairly obvious comparison: the Maesters. There are many things the two groups do not have in common (like celibacy or homogenous gender), but of course, both groups value knowledge and expertise. Let’s compare Maester Pycelle to everyone’s favorite Ravenclaw, Gilderoy Lockhart!  

Pycelle and Lockhart have more in common than you might first think. Both men have personalities that they have created for the public. Pycelle pretends to be a frail, old man when he is actually anything but, and Lockhart pretends to be a brave, competent wizard when he’s really just a liar and great at one spell. Both men are eventually dispatched – Pycelle is murdered by Qyburn [Editor Luke Addition: Varys in book] and Lockhart accidentally Obliviates himself.

Another easy comparison is, of course, Slytherin and House Lannister. If we’d had some Slytherin characters in Harry Potter as complex as the Lannisters, readers might have appreciated the House way more. I’ve decided to go with Tom Riddle and Tywin Lannister.

Besides the obvious similarity (the letter T, duh), both men are clever, persuasive, and powerful. They each have inherited power: Tywin from the Lannister name and Tom from being the heir of Salazar Slytherin. Tom probably could have learned some tricks from Tywin – ultimately, both men lived to almost the same age, but Tywin still looked handsome when he died.

And finally, Hufflepuff House is obviously very similar to House Bolton.

Just kidding!

Thank you to Benji for this perfect comparison – we’re going with Hufflepuff Nymphadora Tonks and Jaqen H’ghar of the Faceless Men. This is a fairly easy one. Tonks is, of course, a Metamorphmagus, meaning she can change her look at will. Jaqen and the other Faceless Men have the ability to take on new appearances as well. Jaqen is a bit more murderous than Tonks, but as an Auror, Tonks does have the ability to take people out if needed. Aurors and assassins, not so different.

Here are a few more comparisons from your favorite podcasters:

  • Severus Snape = Joffrey Baratheon (Luke)
  • Fat Friar = Robert Baratheon (Luke)
  • Ernie MacMillan = Mace Tyrell (Luke)
  • Hannah Abbott = Faceless Man (“She’s no one” – Luke)
  • Cedric Diggory = Rickon Stark (“Forgotten about and basically a spare” – Luke)
  • Dolores Umbridge = Cersei Lannister (Melissa)
  • Dolores Umbridge = High Sparrow (Luke)
  • Argus Filch = Walder Frey (“Besides the obvious, he cleans up messes other adults are to afraid to” – Benji)
  • Sirius Black = Jamie Lannister (Melissa)
  • Sybill Trelawney = Bran Stark (Benji)
  • Sybill Trelawney = Melisandre (Melissa)
  • Firenze = Bran Stark (Melissa)

And finally, shout out to this wonderful line from the podcast: “Everybody needs a Stab Mitzvah.”

Until next time, thanks for reading The Drowned Word. What is read may never die.

The Daily Derry 3rd Edition

“I Never Would Have Anticipated That.”

Welcome to The Podcast That Floats Down Here’s Daily Derry! The Daily Derry focuses on topics discussed in the most recent episode of the show, which this week was “Stephen King’s ‘IT’ – Noobz.”

In this special episode, first-time reader Luke is joined by two other first-time readers: Abby and Bailey. The trio discussed their favorite characters, favorite and least favorite moments, and questions they have for the rest of the novel.

IT was published in 1986 and since its publication and the famous 1990 miniseries starring Tim Curry, IT has never been out of the public consciousness. In this episode of the podcast, we hear from three first time readers who talked about how IT really wasn’t what they were expecting when they picked it up.

Abby talked about how she’s not a horror fan, which is why she never chose to read the book, and Bailey said she’s been surprised every chapter by how King addresses much more than she thought he would. The hosts listed off all of the issues King tackles in this novel: racism, gender inequality, bullying, abuse, domestic violence. Before starting the novel, “I never would have anticipated that,” said Luke.

How did this wonderfully complex story addressing social issues become relegated to simply horror in popular culture?

I was born in 1992, two years after the release of the IT miniseries and several years after the book’s publication. When I was a kid, I watched the miniseries on television and was rightfully terrified. If you mention IT to anyone, they will inevitably mention the opening the scene in which It lures George into the sewers (or they will mention the meme in which It lures other people into the sewers with offers of paying off student debt). This is what I always associated with both the novel and the miniseries, so I understandably had no desire to pick up the book, thinking it would just be a horror novel.

When I heard they were going to be making a new adaptation of the novel, this time on the big screen and starring that kid from Stranger Things, I was intrigued. I watched the trailer, became terrified of It again, this time as an adult, and vowed not to watch it. I have stuck to that vow. Let me know how you liked the movie.

But the way Luke and all the hosts of Floats Down Here discuss the novel, it sounds like it’s very different from any adaptation. I’m not sure a miniseries or film could easily translate King’s treatment of the issues to the screen. Maybe the only way to really understand this story is to read it, especially if, like me, you’re a fraidy-cat.

I have never been as scared of books as I have been of movies or television. When you’re reading, you’re in control of the image. Reading about It visiting the residents of Derry is no doubt still scary, but you know that your brain is in charge. While reading It, not only can you feel in control of the picture, but you can also grapple with the issues in the way King intended – through his words, and not through the interpretation of a director, producer, actor, and screenwriter.

The sequel to the newest It film is due out this year. Maybe all of us who neglected the book before should pick it up before then and spend some time with King’s words for the first time. I think we might be surprised at what we discover.

Until next time, stay imaginary.

The Quibbler 3rd Edition

Why Does Harry ALWAYS Win the House Cup?

Welcome to The Podcast That Must Not Be Named’s Quibbler! The Quibbler focuses on topics discussed in the most recent episode of the show, which this week was 4-12 – Three Shall Enter – One Shall Win.

Early in this episode, Melissa and Luke discussed the House Cup at Hogwarts and how absolutely insane it is that Gryffindor even has a winning streak. Like Melissa said: if Harry wasn’t doing dangerous things and being awarded a ton of points from Dumbledore, would they even have a streak to protect? 

Short answer: NO. Because all Harry does is lose points until the end of the year when he gains them all back and then some. If he didn’t save the world conveniently in May every year, Gryffindor would not have a winning streak and Slytherin would have kept winning like they were before he showed up. 

*Minor spoilers for books 4-7 ahead, if you care about the House Cup tournament*

What I really want to talk about today is this: why is it important that Harry and his House win this tournament? It features prominently in book one – Harry and company think Slytherin has won (because, um, it did), until Dumbledore surprises everyone by awarding last minute points. Gryffindor wins, Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Neville are rewarded for their bravery, friendship, and intelligence, and Slytherin is sad.

In books two and three, Gryffindor also wins. In year two, Quidditch was cancelled, so that didn’t factor into the House Cup tournament, but in year three, the Gryffindor Quidditch win helped secure the House Cup. The defeat of the Basilisk in year two earned Harry and Ron four hundred points, so again, just two people saving the school apparently gave their House the advantage.

But after year three, the House Cup tournament is barely mentioned again. We can assume that it was cancelled in years four and six because of certain events, and most likely, Gryffindor didn’t win it year five because of a certain authority figure. Who knows what happened in year seven (we sure don’t, and let me explain why it doesn’t matter). 

Gryffindor tasted sweet, sweet victory when the kids were 11, 12, and 13 during the books that are inarguably the most written for children. Harry and friends save the school or win the sports and thus they win the House Cup and are happy! 

Things aren’t quite as simple as they grow up. Year four begins a significant turn in not just Harry’s life, but also J.K. Rowling’s writing of the series. Chapter one is the first time we have information from a narrator other than Harry. We don’t even reach Hogwarts until page 170 (US Paperback)! And of course, the book will take us on a darker and riskier journey than ever before. 

Maybe the House Cup actually represents a time in Harry’s life when his dangerous actions had simple and positive consequences: save the school, win the House Cup.

Now that Harry’s actions will affect the entire wizarding world, his choices can’t have simple and positive consequences. Rowling is weaving a new and exciting narrative, and the House Cup tournament is just one more representation of how our characters (and our author) have grown up.

Until next time, stay imaginary.